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Definition & Scope of e-therapy
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Definition & Scope of e-therapy

John M. Grohol, Psy.D.
May 14, 1999 rev.1

What is e-therapy?
E-therapy is a new modality of helping people resolve life and relationship issues. It utilizes the power and convenience of the Internet to allow simultaneous (synchronous) and time-delayed (asynchronous) communication between an individual and a professional. The focus of e-therapy varies from client to client. Some clients will want to discuss interpersonal relationships, or learn new ways of dealing with stress. Other clients may use e-therapy as an adjunct to other types of real-world services, or to help clarify issues they are currently working on. Still others will use e-therapy to "check-in" from time to time with an objective third-party professional to take stock in their life and work on more philosophical life issues.







Published Jul 05, 2003 - 07:43 AM


Cybermédecine
J'allais vous répondre à propos de votre correspondance ci-dessous
[Ode1954@aol.com & maldoror@ifrance.com]. Elle m'incite à une mise au point

quant à ma position vis à vis des "entretiens préliminaires non-virtuels"
(maldoror@ifrance.com) et "la personne de chair et d'âme"

(exmed-1@liste.gyneweb.fr).

La manière dont j'ai compris la tentative de Lacan invite à considérer
une structure de langage et une possibilité thérapeutique qui fasse
intervenir le Sujet de façon autonome par rapport à "la personne de chair et
d'âme." Je n'ignore pas les critiques voire les opprobres qui ont été
dirigées vers Lacan, ni les rapports de sa théorie à la mort
("être-pour-la-mort" - Heidegger que je n'ai malheureusement pas le temps de
lire nous en apprendrait encore sur ce point sans doute). Tenant compte de
Lacan et de ces critiques, j'en suis néanmoins venu à maintenir l'idée
qu'une cure 'subjective' ait 'par nécessité' des effets sur ladite "personne
de chair et d'âme."
De ce fait je considère tout à fait possible une cybermédecine qui n'use
d'aucune rencontre 'live' - je crois même qu'elle est salutaire.
Ceci, au demeurant n'exclut pas que les êtres se rencontrent et de fait,
dans ma pratique la majorité des relations cyberthérapeutiques sont
associées à des consultations naturelles. Mais je n'en fais pas une
condition nécessaire.


Toujours en remerciement pour votre activité
Sincèrement
Dr William Théaux
http://perso.club-internet.fr/wtheaux


Note: J'ai tenté de créer une procédure visant à une pré-analyse sur la
rubique "paradoxes" de www.cal.be.tf . Celle-ci est confidentielle et

n'est envoyée qu'à des praticiens, elle vise à établir un dossier
préliminaire à mieux comprendre la position de départ de l'analysant, de
connaître ses véritables besoins affin de mieux l'orienter.

Cette procédure peut donc déboucher sur une cure psychanalytique (sur le
net ou en privé) exclusivement envoyée à un médecin psychanalyste ou
psychologue.

Cette procédure me semble bien incomplète et VOICI LE BUT DE MON
INTERVENTION : c'est si possible de l'améliorer grâce à l'apport de vos
colistiers.

Vous remerciant tous pour votre aide.

Cordialement

Tassigny F
Message d'Exmed, liste d'Expression médicale et de diffusion de la LEM (
ex Lem-liste)
>
>Ces pratiques sont courantes outre-atlantique, de nombreux sites sont
>dédiés à par exemple l'analyse en ligne. Le véritable problème est la
>question du "transfert", comment envisager , théoriser avant
>d'entreprendre ?
>
>Cordialement
>
>Tassigny F
____________

Restons au niveau du concret et du vécu pour tenter de poursuivre nos
échanges de façon constructive.

Que notre ami belge nous raconte son expérience de ce qu'il nomme
d'un terme que je ne comprends pas :
" cure en ligne", pour nous informer et non pour en faire la promotion.

De mon côté, je verse au dossier la page "sevrage ambulatoire des
patients alcooliques" du site exmed


Cette pathologie touche 10 % des adultes dans nos pays.
Je vous raconterai les suites plus tard, si cela vous intéresse.

Bonne journée.
FMM


Published Jul 04, 2003 - 09:53 AM


Cyberdocteurs
Sur www.cal.be.tf vous pouvez sur le portail, rubrique "contacter un
psychanalyste" contacter le Dr Curci, le Dr Theaux. Le premier est
psychothérapeute et le second psychyatre et psychanalyste.

Nous pouvons également proposer avec ces deux praticiens une cure en
ligne.


Monsieur,

Mais que faites-vous donc de la personne de chair et d'âme ? Comment pouvez-vous vous priver -et priver le patient- de l'échange d'un regard, d'une poignée de main, d'un sourire, d'un silence qui dit long, d'un discours parlé et du timbre d'une voix ... et même si le contact oral et visuel est possible grâce à un micro et une webcam, le virtuel ne pourra jamais remplacer ce contact d'être à être.
Parce qu'un humain ne se résume pas à une image sur un écran de PC ni à un filet de voix qu'abîme le micro et dont l'expression est forcément gênée dans ce qui pourrait se dire.
Du moins est-ce mon avis personnel ...
J'aurais aimé que d'autres, et surtout des médecins, donnent leur point de vue sur ce type de "cyberthérapies".
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Note: Nous vous signalons qu'actuellement Monsieur Jean-Pierre Begue également sur http://begue1.chez.tiscali.fr/Cyberpsy.html
email : jean.pierre.begue2@libertysurf.fr vous répond en ligne.TF
Published Jul 04, 2003 - 09:45 AM


Psychotherapy one line via Internet.
Psychotherapy one line via Internet.

The computer can from now on play a part of mediator between certain patients and their therapeutist.

Up to your keyboards !




All the branches of industry are upset by the use of Internet; all or almost can be done remotely by screen interposed via a telephone line and a modem so that new forms of therapy appeared recently giving to the computer a role of mediator impossible to circumvent for certain patients and their therapeutist.

Psychotherapy by mail called email therapy or e-therapy and written psychotherapy in interactivepractised by psychologists, psychotherapists or psychoanalysts not doctors1 make from now on left the landscape of the remote care.

Psychotherapy by mail consists in writing its text on computer then to send it to its therapeutist the day agreed upon, the therapeutist sending his answer written by mail in the 24 hours which follow.




Written psychotherapy in interactive is a dialogue on computer in real time during a fixed weekly appointment. Patient and therapeutist find themselves in front of their screen and on Internet at the same time for a written meeting. Each series of sentences typed by the means of the keyboard is transmitted instantaneously to the therapeutist who answers according to same methods'.

These psychotherapies can be accessible to people living from the areas isolated, with people handicapped or patients of which mobility is reduced. It thus becomes possible to make a therapy of at home, its office or the country in which one remains with the therapeutist that one chooses in a directory of professionals on Internet with sometimes even the possibility of choosing the language.

The payment of the meetings is carried out in advance by bank card or cheque

Published Jun 28, 2003 - 03:07 PM


Psychoanalysis on line, phantasm or reality?
Psychoanalysis on line, phantasm or reality?








Internet caused a revolution in our everyday life by the mass of knowledge to which we can have access in some clicks of mouse. All the branches of industry are concerned with what it is necessary well to call a true revolution; all or almost can be done remotely by screen interposed via a telephone line and a modem including in the field of health (tele medicine, tele surgery) and in the field of the psychological care with the recent appearance of the therapies by mail (email therapy) and of the written therapies in interactive with a computer via Internet.


The traditional image of psychoanalysis showing the patient lengthened on the couch with the analyst behind him in an armchair risks to be also upset and replaced by that of the analyst sitting vis-a-vis to his computer equipped with a numerical camera, lending an attentive ear to his patient through his ear-phones while looking at him on his screen. The transmission of the images and the sound by high flow (ADSL) of the patient towards the analyst and vice versa allows meetings by video of good quality and this quality goes improving of day in day with constant progress in this field





Many analysts will think that it acts of a nightmare worthy of best of the worlds, that to in no case, one cannot do without the real presence of the analyst behind the couch. However some analysts having pinion on the Net propose already analyses according to these new methods. A psychoanalysis on computer via Internet does it concern an insane project or is made possible right now by the technological developments and the broadmindedness of some innovative experts eager to live with their time?


The answer, it is that an analysis by the Net is possible in the prerequisite to believe it possible and to put oneself in situation of research just like some famous analyst did in their time : Freud with small Hans for which it is the father who applied the treatment and Lacan in the abandonment of the traditional meeting of ¾ of hour to the profit of a meeting at variable duration to quote only these 2 examples.




Published Jun 28, 2003 - 03:03 PM

my convictions

Psychoanalysis

by Franz Tassigny



Proposition 1.

If there is a slumbering poet in every psychoanalyst and in every poet a psychoanalyst caught unawares it is because they both evoke an articulated language, that of the unconscious. For the first it unfolds in a rigorous closerous closed field and for the second it expands in lyrical and wild romanticism.

Proposition 2.

Chess masters possess the art of people who have none, psychoanalysts that of healing; poets that of enchanting. All three are confronted with their solitude; often in research sometimes in music and innermost joy.

Proposition 3.

There are no established poets and no street poets, only poets, full stop. On the other hand, there are no psychoanalysts as such. There are solicitors of the mind, mayors of the unconscious, pedagogues, teachers, doctors or theoreticians, but, they are in good lodgings.

Proposition 4.

Poets all belong or have belonged to a "wandering academy". For the most rebellious that of the aristocracy of the proletariat; for the others, let's say that they simply indulge in lyricism. Analyst apart from a few dissenters are keyed to established power rarely or never offering an ear to anarchy.

Proposition 5.

Supposing poets were in fact only false misfits surreptitiously hiding their dishonour unan ear to anarchy.

Proposition 6.

Supposing poets were in fact only false misfits surreptitiously hiding their dishonour under the mask of inconsolable gloom, society romantics and lyrical hucksters. Then, in order to repair the good they failed to bestow or the evil of their mediocrity, fully fledged analysts will be required to heal their imposture.

Proposition 7.

If analysts read Nerval, it is because he hung himself in the street providing them with an almost monstrous clinical case. Poets, on the other hand recall that he was Gerard Labrunie, stretcher bearer and poet at the time of the Commune when letters killed.

Proposition 8.

Maïakowski desired to live a double choice: that of renouncing the memory of his father and that of choosing the exact hour of his death. can you imagine an analyst elsewhere than in the shadow of Freud, succumbing to a cotton-woolly death on a couch maybe... P.S. Maïakovski's death was an outcome of a Stalinian purge and Freud's one that of an excess of cocaine?

Proposition 9.

Poets belong to a secret brotherhood: sea captains, night porters, circus folks... The latter are to be found proposition 8.

Poets belong to a secret brotherhood: sea captains, night porters, circus folks... The latter are to be found paradoxically in the dreams of the subject undergoing psychoanalysis, to be deciphered by the analyst. You will now understand the solitude of poets. One only understands real solitude and its weight when one is surrounded by friends who distract you from your creative awakening. Remember Milosz, when a friend expressed concern about his absence and asked him "Master, how is your solitude?" Because one is alone, always alone, everything aims at solitude.

Proposition 10.

The psychoanalytical process for Lacan is what epiphany means for Joyce, the labyrinth for Borges, the Madeleine for Proust and light for the Impressionists. All these concepts have had their Schools, a þre acknowledged friends, except perhaps the work of Arthur Rimbaud that will only emerge in the genesis of future man.

Proposition 11.

One must absolutely direct oneself from the author towards his work, that is to say: it is because a creator possesses a given personality that he produces a given work. But never, amongst the characteris to say: it is because a creator possesses a given personality that he produces a given work. But never, amongst the characteristic specificities of a text to outline the psychological profile of an author and to draw a series of conclusions, in a dichotomy of various preaching.
It would be vain to interpret the verses of Paul Panel "The black milk of dawn is drunk at sunset" as the gruesome representation of Auschwitz, the concentration camp where they were written; as also to call Ezra Pound a fascist as a consequence of a few interviews given during the war on Radio Rome where aesthetics and politics were cleverly blended.

Proposition 12.

If on the fingers of the hand, the painter maintains the palette with his thumb, the politician the forefinger of the agora, the craftsman the middle finger that builds, the musician the ring finger that sings out the soul of violin and the analyst the little finger of the Ear, then the poet is the palm where all come to meditate; as for the philosopher, he is the tool, the plume that vacillates stealthily subtle and transient.

Proposition 13.

The subject undergoing psychoanalysis mainool, the plume that vacillates stealthily subtle and transient.

Proposition 14.

The subject undergoing psychoanalysis maintains the great "other" in state. the latter as James Joyce on the banks of the Liffley is in pursuit of new epiphanies. And although his poetry is a sufficiently profound art to include everything, one dimension is lacking: mystery, enigma that only a great "other" can reveal.

Proposition 15.

The making of a poet requires a clean shirt every morning and no shame. The making of an analyst imperatively requires a social status, he is in need of a master, a recognised school of thought. Paradoxically for the analyst, the written word is prone to stage-fright leading almost to pride in commenting and producing in a rigorous and faithful manner closest to the chosen master.For the poet, the password is a tempest under a skull, for the analyst, it dithers on a comma.

Proposition 16.

Between psychoanalysts, there is alas the word reason. On the other hand, between poets, the concept of discovery which amounts to saying: a great poet is not only he who writes verse but he who finds and enhances the work cept of discovery which amounts to saying: a great poet is not only he who writes verse but he who finds and enhances the work of other poets. And it is mainly this availability that makes him great. They therefore acquire the capacity of outgrowing personal resentment which no psychoanalytical school has so far been able to do. On the other hand, psychoanalysts do not try to please, whereas poets major or minor try to catch the tune of the day living in the future of the work to come.

Proposition 17.

In the field of the Odyssey as the Ulysses of Homer born of the surf of the sea symbolising man with the thousand ideas and written in the dynamics of the tropical waves episode open to the sky of adventure, carnal links, knightly combats, the hero is only free in the epics of virile action, the great nomadic wanderings.
In contrast, the field of the analyst is an interior world with an economy of words, availability in a sedentary empty theatre like an inner oasis.

Proposition 18.

If poetry is a language in the highest meaning of the word, it is because it is the knot, the furnace, the vortex of logopeïa (significance of the woe in the highest meaning of the word, it is because it is the knot, the furnace, the vortex of logopeïa (significance of the word), phalopoeïa (originality of the image) and finally of meloeïa (assonance of sounds). It is this later quality which is rare as we can also imagine in the analyst with a difference: the poet perceives the "hymn of the world" and the analyst, the secret mechanism of the unconscious, the interior path of man.

Proposition 19.

If the poet lives the anxiety of the blank sheet and the analyst the ruin of an empty consulting room, it is because both live up to their art as an armrest for their solitude and not as an awakening of thought.



Appendix 1.

The word solitude and its concept occur episodically in these propositions because they are intimately linked to poetry, but, I am not really sure that "the solitude of the poet" is a form of punishment. If one "enters into solitude", it is no sacrifice, no calling,. On the contrary, its quintessence is Awakening, as in a Spanish inn for the pilgrim, the cure for a patient; it offers what one possesses in reality: The LIVED EXPERIENCE, as in life, we do not suffer from what we have brought rather from what we have been unable to give.
There is slightly nothing to negotiate nor to expire above all no nostalgia of solitude. Of course, most need solitude to produce a work "One must get lost within oneself" (F. Kafka) and it is difficult to outline the limits, often extraordinary indifferent. They lose themselves probably because they have gone beyond on the quest believing themselves to have a mission and a grossly useless one at that. There is never a mandate.
Rimbaud for sure had fully understood this (in Abyssinia), he had certainly gone beyond an art that he had fully circumscribed, a meteor in the matrix of the poet to come, he had therefore nothing more to prove: what is definite even in excess is not to be crossed out, is not to be started again. He had given too much too quickly, too far, the gap between the Verb and existence is neither an abyss nor a ruin, but simply a lived experience, the equinox of a dreaming mind.

Appendix 2.

Poets apart from a fether an abyss nor a ruin, but simply a lived experience, the equinox of a dreaming mind.

Appendix 3.

Poets apart from a few symbolists have no curiosity for the abysses. Psychoanalysis would worry about its genesis and would guide the subject out of the abyss whilst cornering him in his last defences, his uttermost confessions. The patient must therefore verbalise and go beyond his limits expressing unspeakable shame striving to live and live again that which has changed his entire life, his entire being reduced to the obsessional reflection of a trauma. His only life belt in the tempest is the psychoanalyst for sure who in the torment sets his patient adrift on the high seas, at the profoundest depths. Is metamorphosis now necessary, to displace the obsession, the fixed idea enhancing it with new colors.
Here is an alchemy of the deepest wound treated with all the seriousness of men of science. The psychoanalyst does not quibble with Satan, the Satan of his patients, hence a terrible harshness, a perfect austerity as he locks himself in the fantasies of his patient like a mother embracing her cancerous son to take his illness from him and restore his hope in life.

Appendix 4.

Poets are major, fully acknowledged or meteors, never prophetic.The advent of the Nazism was due in Germany to a need for a great spiritual leader, a sort of shepherd of the Germanic Soul. He was awaited in the work of the Romantics. Alas, the promised heaven turned into an apocalypse, the great leader into a bloodthirsty barbarian in the black masses of the holocausts.

Appendix 5.

Amongst the poets in love with a mythology linked to the elements, the most subtle are those who deal with minerals.